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Bullwinkle

Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)

10-31-2011 19:18

I don't think Mendel is the problem.

The problem is that the decision to cut back was made in Japan, which assumed that the 2008 downturn in the US would make the initial new design Civic too big and two expensive, so they overruled the Americans who told the Japanese that the market would bounce back.

What we got was a rushed, de-contented Civic.

The GOOD NEWS in all of this is the announcement recently that product development all over the world would be done more locally, instead of globally. That should give Mendel the authority to redesign the Civic on his own.

I work for a Japanese conglomerate, and after talking to some of my Japanese colleagues who are also Honda-philes, this is what we expect:

1) New Entry-level Acura will be introduced soon and will be upmarket version of what the Americans wanted the 2012 Civic to be.

2) Shortly thereafter, current civic will be SCRAPPED in favor of a Honda version of the entry level Acura.

There is precedent for this:

In the mid 1990s, the American Accord/TL split from the Global Accord platform, and remains split to this day. This has resulted in the most successful and profitable line of cars in American Honda's History.

In 1999, American Honda split the US Odyssey from the Global Odyssey. This US truck platform resulted in development in the US of the Odyssey, Pilot, MDX series of highly successful and profitable products, as well as the Ridgeline and ZDX which were, well ... less so.

If there were a time to repeat the feat, it would be now after a dictate from Japan resulted in a business disaster. May have Given Mendel the ammunition he needs.

At least I hope so.

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10-31-2011 08:27	Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	TSX69
10-31-2011 08:58	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Steve
10-31-2011 09:10	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	superchg
10-31-2011 18:47	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	HONDA AFVM
10-31-2011 19:18	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Bullwinkle
10-31-2011 20:01	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	HONDA AFVM
10-31-2011 20:07	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	DCR
10-31-2011 13:25	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Waldo
10-31-2011 14:11	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Mr. Taggart
10-31-2011 14:46	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	typer_801
10-31-2011 16:43	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	DCR
10-31-2011 18:37	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	MalcolmR
10-31-2011 18:44	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	HondaJet
11-01-2011 13:22	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Mr. Taggart
11-01-2011 14:51	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	superchg
11-01-2011 18:06	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Mr. Taggart
10-31-2011 21:59	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Power Of Dreams
10-31-2011 23:43	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	auto_enthu
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11-01-2011 18:46	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Mr. Taggart
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11-02-2011 14:42	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	cforez
11-02-2011 14:57	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Mr. Taggart
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11-02-2011 15:34	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	CR-V9
11-02-2011 15:47	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	CR-V9
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11-02-2011 17:03	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	CR-V9
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11-02-2011 12:00	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Phil17
10-31-2011 21:49	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Power Of Dreams
10-31-2011 23:38	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Bullwinkle
11-01-2011 01:18	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Power Of Dreams
11-01-2011 00:59	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Powered by Honda
11-01-2011 01:24	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	auto_enthu
11-01-2011 02:08	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	DCR
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11-01-2011 09:28	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	DCR
11-01-2011 12:11	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Nick GravesX
11-28-2011 17:07	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	garoto628
11-28-2011 17:26	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Powered by Honda
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12-17-2011 23:54	Re: Honda Hurries to ReDo Civic (Score: 1, Normal)	Powered by Honda
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